tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065491601593693979.post8919100752743371480..comments2024-03-20T02:13:39.387-04:00Comments on Bringer of Victory: 40k Theory: Optimization Backlash-BacklashNikephoroshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14484058926496438148noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065491601593693979.post-41250024748658060462011-05-06T19:50:45.019-04:002011-05-06T19:50:45.019-04:00Touche!
Close range speeders in any army are st...Touche! <br /><br />Close range speeders in any army are stupid in my opinion. But then again everyone takes them. I really can not justify throwing an armor ten vehicle and an entire army that can kill it. Typhoons are where it is at!Stillfrostyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14357397323418834184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065491601593693979.post-23461884924312948652011-05-05T15:35:30.775-04:002011-05-05T15:35:30.775-04:00Yeah, except in my example you quoted I didn't...Yeah, except in my example you quoted I didn't mention Typhoons. ;)Nikephoroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14484058926496438148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065491601593693979.post-15990979208649334302011-05-05T14:43:46.116-04:002011-05-05T14:43:46.116-04:00To quote you:
Land Speeder w/ Multi-melta Heavy F...To quote you:<br /><br />Land Speeder w/ Multi-melta Heavy Flamer 60<br />Attack Bike with MM 50<br /><br />Without knowing the rest of the list, it's impossible to know which is Strictly Better. But one always is. ALWAYS. In a list with lots of vehicles, the Speeder is strictly better. In a list with lots of bikes, the Attack Bike is strictly better.<br /><br />As a person who uses a bike army, I completely disagree with this statement. Land speeders with long range weapons (ie. Typhoon missiles) are much more useful then more fast moving multi-melta attack bikes. The army all ready has tons of that so why take more?Stillfrostyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14357397323418834184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065491601593693979.post-46805963401100955162011-05-04T11:10:13.892-04:002011-05-04T11:10:13.892-04:00Yes of course, I did a generalisation there. To be...Yes of course, I did a generalisation there. To be honest in many games I wished I had more Hydras, to shoot at transports mainly, since ordnance weapons can really be a hit or miss (no pun intended) thing. In many games they perform very well though. I am just saying that sometimes I am not going to use two of the same unit (and go for a more sub optimal choice) just to be able to paint two different sets of models.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11142379276012984189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065491601593693979.post-74365035078432566982011-05-04T10:50:57.414-04:002011-05-04T10:50:57.414-04:00I would argue that Hydras vs. Medusa vs Manticores...I would argue that Hydras vs. Medusa vs Manticores there is not a strictly better. Each does a very different role on the battlefield, and depending on the rest of your list, a mix may very well be the optimal choice. There are a lot of variables to consider.Nikephoroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14484058926496438148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065491601593693979.post-41916927805114435042011-05-04T09:31:52.612-04:002011-05-04T09:31:52.612-04:00Sometimes I get caught in the "anti-spam"...Sometimes I get caught in the "anti-spam" craze but mainly because of the painting processes. For me painting is as important (if even more) than playing when it comes to 40K as a total hobby. So even though maybe 3 x 2 Hydras would be the better choice for my IG, I still prefer to field my current setup (2 Hydras, 2 Medusas, 1 Manticore). For the simple fact that I can't be bothered painting 6 Hydras. Okay, that's a gross exaggeration but that's what I mean. <br /><br />Still I try to compensate by using alternatives that could fulfil the same role (even though slightly worse) as the optimal choice. And I would never use God-awful units just for the sake of it. Hope all this makes sense.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11142379276012984189noreply@blogger.com