tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065491601593693979.post3793468668575320..comments2024-03-20T02:13:39.387-04:00Comments on Bringer of Victory: Blink! How to Make Decisions on the Table TopNikephoroshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14484058926496438148noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065491601593693979.post-66557735504511117392011-06-01T06:31:41.605-04:002011-06-01T06:31:41.605-04:00Ah, but those things aren't something you have...Ah, but those things aren't something you have to make a decision about. The order you shoot, as you said, is determined somewhat automatically. It's when you get to the part where you have to make decisions between two (or more) equally viable options that the gut call comes in.Nikephoroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14484058926496438148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065491601593693979.post-29666239950319102362011-05-31T21:46:41.032-04:002011-05-31T21:46:41.032-04:00Not sure I like the idea of letting my instinct ta...Not sure I like the idea of letting my instinct take over target selection. The reason is I generally shoot in a specific order. That order is determined by 2 things, 1 the first unit to shoot has to have the least amount of targets and 2nd the unit has to have a reasonable chance of hurting what it is firing at. This is made to not waste shots. Those are the first 2 things I think about when shooting. Next is the possible hurt an enemy unit will inflict and when this possible hurt will come about. I think thats when I can start to use the instinct part of my decision making process as the decisions become more complexOrleanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17120434922055979965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065491601593693979.post-29344019546586623862011-05-31T21:00:43.959-04:002011-05-31T21:00:43.959-04:00@Alex yeah there was a chapter about a real milit...@Alex yeah there was a chapter about a real military war game. The concept that I took away from it was how the U.S. Navy had like 6 big Destroyers and they were beaten by 100 PT Boats with missile launchers.<br /><br />MSU for the win?Nikephoroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14484058926496438148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065491601593693979.post-89866049087776666682011-05-31T17:22:11.064-04:002011-05-31T17:22:11.064-04:00hi,
yes, you still need to think until you become...hi,<br /><br />yes, you still need to think until you become a 'gut master' !<br /><br />More quietly speaking, the answer is (frequently, always ?) in you. You can get it by thinking (it's how we are taught in occident, the rational way) or by let it flow out of yourself (that's more the chinese tao part)<br /><br />It's a long way to fulfill one's tao, so yes, we still need to have a reflexion until we are able to just 'be' the answer <br /><br />Thanks for that article Nikephoros !pascalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13146901830815691446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065491601593693979.post-16820216367856056092011-05-31T17:03:38.786-04:002011-05-31T17:03:38.786-04:00hmmm, one thing I'd like to point out is how m...hmmm, one thing I'd like to point out is how misleading 'gut instincts' are when coming to a conclusion on something, because what often happens it that you cannot help but stick to that initial 'gut feeling' when coming to decisisons, no matter how much evidence there is against it. Obviously in a game situation there shortage of time would probably force you into acting on your 'gut feeling', but one should really try to keep an open mind in order to explore all possibilities before coming to a decision.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065491601593693979.post-8874797845770101042011-05-31T16:30:11.811-04:002011-05-31T16:30:11.811-04:00If you liked Blink, I would definitely recommend J...If you liked Blink, I would definitely recommend Jonah Lehrer's "How We Decide," as it covers some of the same topics with a little more detail.<br /><br />In particular, there's a chapter on Bill Robertie, world champ in poker, backgammon and speed chess. His method for success is very much like the art experts that Gladwell talks about. Through years and years of practice, and focusing on his failures, he is able to train his instincts to make the best possible decisions based on "feel" alone. So yes, contrary to what Antipope says, this stuff would be directly applicable to tabletop gaming.<br /><br />Definitely check out the Lehrer book, and you'll see the very same conclusions that Gladwell talks about, but with even more examples and explanation.Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02508176837870005041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065491601593693979.post-86009521908772214372011-05-31T15:49:12.385-04:002011-05-31T15:49:12.385-04:00Great book. Wasn't there a chapter in it abou...Great book. Wasn't there a chapter in it about a wargame simulation?Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15781884145968640186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065491601593693979.post-72550124785751667232011-05-31T15:41:01.173-04:002011-05-31T15:41:01.173-04:00God forsaken Blogger at my comment and then crappe...God forsaken Blogger at my comment and then crapped on me.<br /><br />You've already answered it yourself, Antipope. More experienced players play faster. They play faster because of experience informing their decision making process on a sub-conscious level. They don't need to mull over every move and consciously recognize the fact they've seen that particular defense 100 times and that they've played the appropriate offensive move to it 88 times successfully. That processing is done behind the scenes, or at least as is being said, done more effectively that way. By playing blitz chess they are testing and improving upon that subconscious processing ability.<br /><br />I imagine you've had a game, 40K or whatever, where you spent a ton of time thinking about a move and later realized it was a mistake and you over analyzed the situation, yes? How many times in those situations afterwards did you realize that your first instinct was the correct one? That's what he's driving at.Thorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04437070475561268098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065491601593693979.post-31386768516381980542011-05-31T14:58:05.981-04:002011-05-31T14:58:05.981-04:00Yep, I know about it but that is more of an exotic...Yep, I know about it but that is more of an exotic format if nothing else. I believe, players having more time to think would produce better and more complex games than with a very restrictive time format. Experience will come down to it of course, the more you have it the faster you can play. I don't think it would work the other way around though, ie playing very fast games withought analysing your moves wouldn't really make you a better player.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11142379276012984189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065491601593693979.post-72517062880049078212011-05-31T14:23:47.861-04:002011-05-31T14:23:47.861-04:00@Anti-pope. Have you heard of blitz chess? It...@Anti-pope. Have you heard of blitz chess? It's normal chess but you have very limited time to make your move. It is EXACTLY what this is about. Chess masters play blitz games to sharpen their decision making ability in order to better make the right move instinctively.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitz_chessNikephoroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14484058926496438148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065491601593693979.post-54386746800259223762011-05-31T14:09:52.036-04:002011-05-31T14:09:52.036-04:00Not sure I am buying this to be honest. Are chess ...Not sure I am buying this to be honest. Are chess grand masters playing the first move that comes to their mind? And if they did so, would that improve their game? I think in some situations going with gut instinct would work. But a game like 40k is generally counter intuitive (since it's a completely made up thing)so the subconscious should stay out of it :PAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11142379276012984189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065491601593693979.post-37476463772413098692011-05-31T13:43:42.583-04:002011-05-31T13:43:42.583-04:00I did an article recently about trusting your gut ...I did an article recently about trusting your gut and now I feel validated in that :)Thorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04437070475561268098noreply@blogger.com